COMMON DECENCY / MANNERS

Date: 2009-03-15, 7:47AM PDT


I am a freelancer with 10 years experience and I look at Craigslist everyday to pick up work if I can.
I always reply to posts that pertain to my services and send resume, reel link, rate, availability and whatever else they ask for.
You would think the least the poster could do is respond to everyone who sent them info and once they have filled the position to delete the ad.
They probably don't teach manners at the expensive film schools, just how to jerk people around!

But I guess I shouldn't expect too much since most the Craigslist ads are crappy gigs with low pay and no respect for your time or you as a human being.

What a shame!

* Location: RUDEVILLE

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RE : Decency / Rudeness (Hollywood)
Date: 2009-03-15, 10:01AM PDT

"You would think the least the poster could do is respond to everyone who sent them info and once they have filled the position to delete the ad. "

And what exactly is that supposed to accomplish ? Seriously ? I'd love to understand what the thinking is here, I'm not getting it.

I see these same "please acknowledge my application" ads every week. What ?

This is not 1959 or even 1989, and people do not send hand typed formal query letters on watermarked linen letterhead by US Postal Service to be acknowledged by a similar letter from a secretary.

There's a massive army of overqualified competition for any film related position in Los Angeles, and if you have been doing this 10 years you surely have seen the whole thing change during that period of time.

* Location: Hollywood

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RE: DECENCY AND MANNERS... (Rudeville)
Date: 2009-03-15, 11:35AM PDT

As someone who has placed job ads here...I can tell you from experience... you can't respond to everyone, there is usually an overwhelming response to begin with. Not to mention that many responses are so rediculous they don't warrant a response in the first place. SO once you've placed an ad you will understand. It's not about rudeness, it's weeding through, picking the most suitable applicant and that's it!

* Location: Rudeville

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RE: Decency and Manners (rudeville?)
Date: 2009-03-15, 12:17PM PDT

Everyone is right that posters get hundreds of responses. This is what i don't get. I receive phone calls all the time and someone says, "hey this is brian, you responded to my craigs list posting? Are you still available to work?" I then reply, "on what? where? when? and for how much? what camera are we shooting on? who's the DP? who's directing? are these day or night shoots? who the hell am I talking to?"

Listen up producers/directors/whoever is posting these jobs... If you receive 200 responses. And you're calling ONE person back, then statistically I, as an average freelancer, have to apply to about 200 jobs for every call back I get. Now it's not quite that bad, but if I apply to 4-5 things every day and I assume it takes producers a few days to go through responses, then there's a possibility of you being from any one of about 20 jobs that I applied to. When you call to hire me, have some professionalism. Give me some info that was in the post so I know what job you're talking about. Give me more info that wasn't in your post. Tell me something about your shoot. Remember you're not doing a favor to freelances by offering them work. We're doing a favor to you by giving our excellent services for your (usually) low ball rate.

To the original poster, get over yourself. This is criagslist, not CAA. If you don't get a thanks but no thanks email just keep moving down the list.

* Location: rudeville?

Crew hiring

Date: 2009-03-09, 1:14AM PDT


WHY DO PEOPLE ASK FOR EXPERIENCE/ IMDB LINKS/ REFERENCES/ RESUMES/ REELS/ IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO PAY US!!!1

FIRST OF ALL A INTERN IS ONLY FOR COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO ARE TAKING A CLASS AND WILL GET CLASS CREDIT!!!

A PRODUCTION ASSISTANT IS A PAYED POSITION, PA'S ARE NOT INTERN'S. IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH $$$$$$$ TO GIVE TO YOUR PRODUCER'S AND OTHER CREW MEMBERS

PLEASE PAY YOU PA'S, BOOM OP', ANY POSITION IS APAYED POSITION BESIDES INTERNING!!!!!

SO LOOK IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO A PRODUCTION SHOOT PAY YOUR PEOPLE

NO ONE IN THIS ECONOMY IS GOING TO PAY THEIRE BILLS WITH FOOD AND CREDIT


* Location: Los Angeles

Seek Slave labor

Date: 2009-03-06, 10:08AM PST


We are a fun, hypocritical, exciting, dishonest, generous, slave-driving, loving, disrespectful of your talent and time, grateful, lowlife, bunch of wannabes
who don't know jack about the business, want to wing our way into oblivion for the sake of our own miserable little egos.

If you are dumb enough to fall for this crap, you deserve to be taken advantage of.

The satisfaction of working for crew members who are descendants of Mother Teresa does not feed the kiddies, pay the rent or fills your tank.

Quit playing down your real motives.

If you don't have enough money to pay at least minimum wage, don't make a blipping movie.

Take your wonderful crew and charming personalities and get new careers!

It takes people to make films, it takes money to pay these people and these people don't live off the kindness of strangers.

PAY UP YOU CHEAP, LOUSY BASTARDS!!!

* Location: Everywhere
* Compensation: Our wonderful and charming companionship

Director of Photography/Camera Op

Date: 2009-03-05, 10:12AM PST


Will everyone of you Hack-ass DPs running around with a camera just quit. If you're working for free then you suck and you will never make it. The only thing you accomplish is washing out the job market and driving down wages for the rest of us. And to all of you HACK-ASS Producer want-to-be's, obviously you have no taste or you wouldn't be hiring these no talent, camera having, quasi professionals to shoot your productions. NEWS FLASH, it will look like shit and you will never get into a festival. You get what you pay for. Please, drop off the face of the earth.

* Location: Hollywood