Date: 2011-11-12, 11:24PM PST
DO NOT WORK FOR FREE!!!!!!!!! Any "producer" worth anything should know they need to have a budget in place, even for a pilot. If they can't scrape together enough money to shoot a pilot do you really think they have the means to get you paying work? They state the show will not pay its crew members at this time. How about down the road? Will it pay then? If so, what does it pay? If the show gets picked up you have ZERO guarantee of being hired for the production. Real companies pay crew members, even for pilots.
Original, dumb, stupid, mindless, sleazy post:
Reality show looking for crew members. The first shoot will be in downtown LA on Friday November 18th. . The show will not pay its crew members at this time as this is the pilot shoot. however this will be a great oportunity for exposure in the industry and there could be a possibiity of the producers hiring in future. If you are interested Please email us
(TPrealityshow@ gmail.com)
Location: Mars
Compensation: is required by law
Sunday, November 13, 2011
Saturday, November 12, 2011
Section should be titled Freeloaders
Date: 2011-11-12, 10:10AM PST
Section should be called freeloaders for all those broke worthless people wanting us to work for free or $20 a day. Fuk off
Location: lA
Section should be called freeloaders for all those broke worthless people wanting us to work for free or $20 a day. Fuk off
Location: lA
Thursday, November 10, 2011
Question: If it's in "gigs" doesn't that mean $
Date: 2011-11-10, 10:14AM PST
So, last year I made a living from decent "gigs" as a DP on Craigslist. It seemed there was an appropriate pay scale for many jobs. Not so this year. FYI I tend to work for around $50-75/hr. I will not put the equipment in the car for less than $250. As far as I know this is an appropriate pay rate and fits roughly in with the union average.
My question for you DPs is: should we just flag all these adds that are basically offering DPs the opportunity to work all day for free or for some bullshit like IMDB credit?
Shouldn't these free requests be made in community?
~Mark
Location: LA
Compensation: What you need to be professional
So, last year I made a living from decent "gigs" as a DP on Craigslist. It seemed there was an appropriate pay scale for many jobs. Not so this year. FYI I tend to work for around $50-75/hr. I will not put the equipment in the car for less than $250. As far as I know this is an appropriate pay rate and fits roughly in with the union average.
My question for you DPs is: should we just flag all these adds that are basically offering DPs the opportunity to work all day for free or for some bullshit like IMDB credit?
Shouldn't these free requests be made in community?
~Mark
Location: LA
Compensation: What you need to be professional
Friday, November 4, 2011
RE: Steadicam Operator $80
Date: 2011-11-04, 12:30PM PDT
I try hard not to answer these ads from the bush league wannabes who are dumbing down the biz (even more).
But if I do, I just explain that I will work for free...but only on a student project (at a legit college or high school) where the kid is maybe a junior or senior 21 years old or younger.
I explain that I will not work for a 25, 30, 40, 50+ year old for free...period! No matter what the promises: "awesome script," "awesome crew," "awesome future paid jobs," "awesome good food,"..."we'll lay you, awesomely"...etc...
In fact, now I'm to the point where I will not even consider working on any project or any producer/director who uses the word "AWESOME!"
I've heard of some DP's who actually accept a free or disrespectfully low paying gig and just don't show up for the shoot...leaving these carpetbaggers scrambling to fill the crew position and pay a decent rate at the last moment.
I've heard of others who say, "sure, I'll work for free - but you have to pay market rate for my gear - camera package, lights, grip, etc - which rents for $700+/day.
I know it's not our job to teach these clowns what their parents failed to, like the basic Golden Rule...but I would like to hear from you:
PLEASE SHARE YOUR TACTICS FOR DEALING WITH THESE IDIOTS
Location: los angeles
Compensation: $80
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Steadicam Operator with own equipment FOR 80 DOLLARS? REALLY?
Date: 2011-11-04, 11:19AM PDT
GIVE ME A BREAK YOU IDIOT. A STEADICAM RIG WITH ALL THE ACCESSORIES CAN COST MORE THE 30 THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND YOU EXPECT TO HAVE SOMEONE WILLING TO WORK FOR 80 BUCKS. YOU ARE A MORON AND YOU SHOULDN'T BE PART OF THE FILM/VIDEO INDUSTRY.
ONE THING IS A LOW RATE, BUT THAT DOES NOT ADD UP TO PAY FOR A STEADICAM OP WITH HIS GEAR.
PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE UNBELIEVABLE.
Location: Idiotville
Compensation: no pay
I try hard not to answer these ads from the bush league wannabes who are dumbing down the biz (even more).
But if I do, I just explain that I will work for free...but only on a student project (at a legit college or high school) where the kid is maybe a junior or senior 21 years old or younger.
I explain that I will not work for a 25, 30, 40, 50+ year old for free...period! No matter what the promises: "awesome script," "awesome crew," "awesome future paid jobs," "awesome good food,"..."we'll lay you, awesomely"...etc...
In fact, now I'm to the point where I will not even consider working on any project or any producer/director who uses the word "AWESOME!"
I've heard of some DP's who actually accept a free or disrespectfully low paying gig and just don't show up for the shoot...leaving these carpetbaggers scrambling to fill the crew position and pay a decent rate at the last moment.
I've heard of others who say, "sure, I'll work for free - but you have to pay market rate for my gear - camera package, lights, grip, etc - which rents for $700+/day.
I know it's not our job to teach these clowns what their parents failed to, like the basic Golden Rule...but I would like to hear from you:
PLEASE SHARE YOUR TACTICS FOR DEALING WITH THESE IDIOTS
Location: los angeles
Compensation: $80
--------------------------------------
Steadicam Operator with own equipment FOR 80 DOLLARS? REALLY?
Date: 2011-11-04, 11:19AM PDT
GIVE ME A BREAK YOU IDIOT. A STEADICAM RIG WITH ALL THE ACCESSORIES CAN COST MORE THE 30 THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND YOU EXPECT TO HAVE SOMEONE WILLING TO WORK FOR 80 BUCKS. YOU ARE A MORON AND YOU SHOULDN'T BE PART OF THE FILM/VIDEO INDUSTRY.
ONE THING IS A LOW RATE, BUT THAT DOES NOT ADD UP TO PAY FOR A STEADICAM OP WITH HIS GEAR.
PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE UNBELIEVABLE.
Location: Idiotville
Compensation: no pay
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