Date: 2011-12-10, 9:02PM PST
I know a lot of people on here are shooting for the webisodes/shorts/music videos, and tend to not have a lot to throw around. So I want to say thanks to the people that actually pay PAs and other crew, and actually care about being a good producer. I worked for plenty of people on here, that have done some real low budget stuff. And while all of them have never been able to pay a great daily wage, they've worked hard to make sure that everyone got payed a fair wage. So while I'll never get rich working for you guys, you did help me keep my head above water during a tough holiday season.
Justin Canal
Ann Nguyen
Shane Brown
Patrick Sims
Said Dibinga
Also FYI people. Whenever you see NatGeo post on here, get on that. They pay a great day rate, and are awesome to work for.
Location: Socal
Saturday, December 10, 2011
Wednesday, December 7, 2011
Re: Cinematographer
Date: 2011-12-07, 6:28PM PST
YOUNG seems to be the new code word for FREE....sometimes the carpetbaggers use the word "STUDENT" to describe who they "want," but in the next breath they ask for specialized experience - go figure.
This particular ad also demands specific photography equipment - for Free....who do the think pays for it and maintains it (not for Free).
Young people, students, professionals, veterans, women, gays, whites, blacks, latinos, asians and everyone else, unite and stop being taken advantage of!
I try hard not to answer these ads from the bush league wannabes who are dumbing down the biz (even more).
But if I do, I just explain that I will work for free...but only on a student project (at a legit college or high school) where the kid is maybe a junior or senior 21 years old or younger.
I explain that I will not work for a 25, 30, 40, 50+ year old for free...period! No matter what the promises: "awesome script," "awesome crew," "awesome future paid jobs," "awesome good food,"....etc.
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Date: 2011-12-08, 12:34PM PST
I would have to concur with my comrade here, I've done enough free shoots as a student, some even for celebrities who have money. Usually, when the project gets picked up you and all your hard work and effort are forgotten and they hire their "Go To People," friends, family, and whoever. Why? Because your labor is not valued, they're dozens lining up to do this. So, now that I'm a professional I find it very offensive and disrespectful to the art, discipline and individual especially in this economy. You wouldn't ask a Mechanic to fix your car for free, or a plumber to fix your pipes for free. Why is it then acceptable to ask YOUNG or any one to work for free and provide the use of their personal property?. It is plain and simple exploitation of individual's labor, dreams, and desperation to "Make It." It is basically slavery when one DOES NOT compensate someone else for their time, labor, and equipment. Maybe if the project is so "AWESOME" then you should do like other business owners and take out a loan or fund raise to back up your claims. I too, back a moratorium on this shameful behavior to ask for "Free Work", flag them and get them out of here, if this continues these people will lower the standards so much that none of us well be able to eat.
In fact, now I'm to the point where I will not even consider working on any project or any producer/director who uses the word "AWESOME!"
I've heard of some seasoned photographers who actually accept a free or disrespectfully low paying gig and just don't show up for the shoot...leaving these carpetbaggers scrambling to fill the crew position and pay a decent rate at the last moment.
I've heard of others who say, "sure, I'll work for free - but you have to pay market rate for my gear - camera package, lights, grip, etc - which rents for $700+/day.
I know it's not our job to teach these clowns what their parents failed to, like the basic Golden Rule...but I would like to hear from you:
PLEASE SHARE YOUR TACTICS FOR DEALING WITH THESE IDIOTS
Location: west covina
YOUNG seems to be the new code word for FREE....sometimes the carpetbaggers use the word "STUDENT" to describe who they "want," but in the next breath they ask for specialized experience - go figure.
This particular ad also demands specific photography equipment - for Free....who do the think pays for it and maintains it (not for Free).
Young people, students, professionals, veterans, women, gays, whites, blacks, latinos, asians and everyone else, unite and stop being taken advantage of!
I try hard not to answer these ads from the bush league wannabes who are dumbing down the biz (even more).
But if I do, I just explain that I will work for free...but only on a student project (at a legit college or high school) where the kid is maybe a junior or senior 21 years old or younger.
I explain that I will not work for a 25, 30, 40, 50+ year old for free...period! No matter what the promises: "awesome script," "awesome crew," "awesome future paid jobs," "awesome good food,"....etc.
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Date: 2011-12-08, 12:34PM PST
I would have to concur with my comrade here, I've done enough free shoots as a student, some even for celebrities who have money. Usually, when the project gets picked up you and all your hard work and effort are forgotten and they hire their "Go To People," friends, family, and whoever. Why? Because your labor is not valued, they're dozens lining up to do this. So, now that I'm a professional I find it very offensive and disrespectful to the art, discipline and individual especially in this economy. You wouldn't ask a Mechanic to fix your car for free, or a plumber to fix your pipes for free. Why is it then acceptable to ask YOUNG or any one to work for free and provide the use of their personal property?. It is plain and simple exploitation of individual's labor, dreams, and desperation to "Make It." It is basically slavery when one DOES NOT compensate someone else for their time, labor, and equipment. Maybe if the project is so "AWESOME" then you should do like other business owners and take out a loan or fund raise to back up your claims. I too, back a moratorium on this shameful behavior to ask for "Free Work", flag them and get them out of here, if this continues these people will lower the standards so much that none of us well be able to eat.
In fact, now I'm to the point where I will not even consider working on any project or any producer/director who uses the word "AWESOME!"
I've heard of some seasoned photographers who actually accept a free or disrespectfully low paying gig and just don't show up for the shoot...leaving these carpetbaggers scrambling to fill the crew position and pay a decent rate at the last moment.
I've heard of others who say, "sure, I'll work for free - but you have to pay market rate for my gear - camera package, lights, grip, etc - which rents for $700+/day.
I know it's not our job to teach these clowns what their parents failed to, like the basic Golden Rule...but I would like to hear from you:
PLEASE SHARE YOUR TACTICS FOR DEALING WITH THESE IDIOTS
Location: west covina
Monday, December 5, 2011
Need Brain Surgeon for Low Budget Operation
Date: 2011-12-05, 4:39PM PST
Looking for a seasoned brain surgeon to perform intricate surgery on my head. This is a micro-budget operation and we are all working on deferred brain surgery pay.
Must have over 15 years VERIFIABLE experience at brain surgery. There is no pay but plenty of free coffee and oreos! Please be able to assist yourself and perform several other surgical tasks in addition to slicing out my brain matter.
Surgeon must also provide:
Two Qualified Surgical Nurses
Board Certified Anesthesiologist
Safe and Secure Operating Room
All medical equipment
Clean and sterilized instruments to cut my head open with.
Food and drink for all the medical staff.
Good Drugs a must!
Submit your resume and 150 words of why you think you are qualified to get this exciting gig working with others who just love to cut people open for no pay.
You will get full credit for the procedure and there is the possibility of future surgeries if this one goes well! Get in the spirit of independent brain surgery and network with exciting people now!
You will also get FULL credit on IBSDb.. Internet Brain Surgeon Database... Now is your chance!
Hurry, I need to get this surgery done soon, and I will be interviewing applicants ASAP. I have never done any kind of surgery, but I bought a RED Xacto Knife so that qualifies me to run this operation.
Location: Hollywood
Compensation: Coffee and Credit
Looking for a seasoned brain surgeon to perform intricate surgery on my head. This is a micro-budget operation and we are all working on deferred brain surgery pay.
Must have over 15 years VERIFIABLE experience at brain surgery. There is no pay but plenty of free coffee and oreos! Please be able to assist yourself and perform several other surgical tasks in addition to slicing out my brain matter.
Surgeon must also provide:
Two Qualified Surgical Nurses
Board Certified Anesthesiologist
Safe and Secure Operating Room
All medical equipment
Clean and sterilized instruments to cut my head open with.
Food and drink for all the medical staff.
Good Drugs a must!
Submit your resume and 150 words of why you think you are qualified to get this exciting gig working with others who just love to cut people open for no pay.
You will get full credit for the procedure and there is the possibility of future surgeries if this one goes well! Get in the spirit of independent brain surgery and network with exciting people now!
You will also get FULL credit on IBSDb.. Internet Brain Surgeon Database... Now is your chance!
Hurry, I need to get this surgery done soon, and I will be interviewing applicants ASAP. I have never done any kind of surgery, but I bought a RED Xacto Knife so that qualifies me to run this operation.
Location: Hollywood
Compensation: Coffee and Credit
Thursday, December 1, 2011
Camera and crew available for MONEY not bagels and cold coffee
Date: 2011-11-30, 11:45PM PST
There are plenty of us with camera gear and crew but these days we need MONEY not tired old bagels with warm cream cheese and cold starbucks coffee boxes with no cups or lids, come on guys you've been on those shows that have craft service looking the homeless put it together. MAN!!!
Location: LOS ANGELEs
There are plenty of us with camera gear and crew but these days we need MONEY not tired old bagels with warm cream cheese and cold starbucks coffee boxes with no cups or lids, come on guys you've been on those shows that have craft service looking the homeless put it together. MAN!!!
Location: LOS ANGELEs
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